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Traveller
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent a reply to Zherbus on his forum regarding the issues he's having. Using Acrobat 7 (full version) and Foxit, no problems spring up here other than the obvious one of the old website URL on the title page. I've not changed it as of yet because I wanted to see if the general populace is catching errors so we can fix them.

So far, only Codger on ADnD Campaigns has mentioned any typos. I'm waiting for his response, and then I can make changes.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the note from Zherbus, but I can't seem to duplicate any of those problems using Acrobat 6. Except of course for the old BIP link, which we have to wait to change when I get the main site up.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Varl wrote:

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That Mercola page requires signup, Mira. No thanks, not interested.


Mercola is requiring sign-ups on his site now? I gotta slap that man. He provides a valuable service (if you want the truth on just about anything health related, he has one of the finest resources online), but his self-promotion irritates me to no end. Evil or Very Mad

I thought you only had to sign up to receive the newsletter though. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That might have been what it was. All I know is it blocked and filled the entire page without even being able to view the front page. I don't mind signing up for things; I just don't like it when they're so mandatory about it. If you have to shove a signup popup in the faces of new visitors because all of your subscribed content on your front page, you've got a poorly designed website.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, maybe that's why I didn't seen anything, I don't see popups. I would think you could just close that window and keep going. Alt-F4 maybe if no cloes button is displayed.

Between Firefox's built in pop-blocking and the Adblock extension, there's a lot of garbage I never see Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trust me, I have popups blocked in Firefox too. I hate popups worse than spam. I tried simply bypassing the signup page by canceling the signup, but it redirected me to an entirely different page. Go figure. Laughing

Edit: Gods! It wouldn't even let me enter in a fake email address to register long enough to read the article! Don't ever let me meet Mercola's moronic website admin. I'll beat the everloving dogsnot out of him. Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Second edit: All in all, once I got past all the Mercola bs, that's a nice speed up program. Thanks Mira! Cool


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:49 am    Post subject: Reading, Reading Reply with quote

I started to read the module today; very professional, my hat off to the group.

As I proofread for a living, I am taking that approach for feedback. I think it is well written and will, only, list typos etc.

On page three you have Sydwall high tailing it

"However, he was in quite a hurry and could only take his
some of his belongings"

Anyway, just being a perfectionist....I love what I am seeing and will keep you posted.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Varl, I may have to give Mercola another verbal beating. Twisted Evil

He's in the suburbs here, just outside Chicago. Like I said, his website is a fantastic resource for health topics, but he is arrogant and a shameless self-promoter with a shit-poor site admin.

Check this example. He once had an excellent article about grass fed cows. Cows are designed to eat grass, not grain. Grass fed cows have higher vitamin E levels in their meat, better fatty acid profiles, etc, than grain fed cows. Much healthier meat overall. At one point in the article it said something like "Because grass fed cows have lower levels of vitamin E..." and it was clearly a typo in that it was supposed to say "higher levels of vitamin E". The article spelled that out, but that one sentence had a word error. I wrote him to report it and either he or his site admin (they didn't even sign the reply) wrote me back saying "the information in the article is correct". Rolling Eyes That was the entire email. Shocked Snotty, condescending, and ignorant.

Some of his supplement prices are insane as well. Evil or Very Mad

That being said, it's still one of the first sites I'd go to if I needed to research some health issue. Lots of great info there.

Anyway, like Mira said, I don't see pop-ups because everything on my computer is set to block them. I remember turning it all off once and going to Planet'Tard, and the pop ups were just insane! Rolling Eyes

Lastly, LeSong wrote:

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I started to read the module today; very professional, my hat off to the group.


On behalf of the entire BIP Team, thank you! Very Happy Everyone worked very hard at producing it.

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Anyway, just being a perfectionist....I love what I am seeing and will keep you posted.


Argh! I read it 10 times. How did that one get past me? Embarassed

After awhile you just can't catch them...you're reading more from memory than anything else. I'm a perfectionist too, and this will have me climbing the walls, so keep a running list of any typos you find, so we can correct them. Thanks LeSong! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:40 am    Post subject: Good Module Reply with quote

I have read a few more pages, excellent module...here are my, admittedly nit picking suggestion


This one is subjective;

"Adventurers may only find parts of gold-embroidered
tapestries still in good shape"

maybe this flows better?

"Adventurers may find parts of several gold-embroidered tapestries..."

I think for this line;

"Notice that the upper-left number must be eight, and that each case must have at least one token."

... you meant each square? or if you meant case you might want to mention it in context with the squares earlier.

Also on the same line...is it a mathematical reason to notice the the upper-left number must be eight (?), in which case ignore the following, if not I would state "The upper-left number must be eight,..."


I stopped at Room #9, for now. I am NOT seeing the typical mistakes we see in the mass-produced modules these days and a very good job of editing has, obviously, been accomplished; again good job.

I'm loving the module and can't wait to hit the next couple of rooms...I'm already thinking of a good prop for the puzzle room!



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, LeSong! Wink I love perfecting things, so this is very helpful.

Your example about the tapestries flows much better, and indeed the word "square" should appear in place of the word "case".

I think the original intent PaSquall had was indeed to make the upper left corner be eight, so that I think we can leave in there. That was the hard part as I've been test playing it, but then again I have only one player going through it with me, so that means less brainstorming. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Killer module Reply with quote

Hmmm,

I'm done....I don't want to let too much out on an open forum (maybe edit the critiqued entries later?), anyway

Ouch Twisted Evil you guys definitely brought it to the poor unsuspecting souls!!
I love the module, awesome job.

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"They find that no books that radiate magic" - extra that

I did not check for logic consistency (stating the locations, such as the northeast corner) and cross referencing rooms, etc. No obvious slip ups and that is extraordinary these days...thanks.

I think the only step left is for us all to gather some 'poor unsuspecting souls' and run'm through the module Twisted Evil


Good work and I look forward to the next masterpiece...didn't Halaster say something about July 4th? Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeSong, if you could PM me with a complete list of gaffes I'd appreciate it so I can make the corrections. Saves me from looking through multiple posts and getting a headache.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have we ever finalized this and corrected any typos or errata?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe you told me on the phone that Traveller was double checking that. Did you ever get an answer on this?
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